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Messages - Ed Snyder

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Just a few tips on getting shapes to cut to fit ina boat that's not anywhere square - by design of course.
Using core-flute - signs are made of, and a cheap hot melt (glue) gun. Core-flute can be used often, snap it apart, glue doesn't stick very well forever.

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chit! that an eletix loo there? all those buttons, tell me more!

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Sure ...turn it into a Float-tel!  Add a couple of queen sized beds and a bar ...party hardy! 

The boat's looking good there!  Is that your computer whiz helping you out?

Brian

Why Brian, plurry great Idea...... lol, nope just room for me kettle!
That's my little grandson Noah..... he's a big 5. Great helper too.... All 3 boys love running the length of the hull and climbing as high as possible up the stem to slide down.... cute.

Storm on Sunday - I was fixin son's shed for upcoming winter.... shoudda been at home, that'l learn me, worst in 10 years, 160,000 power outages, roof & window damage abounds.

Chin chin ol chap

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Ed, ya old fart ...  When you was a boy/apprentice.. way back when....  Was that how you built Noahs Ark  ;) ... They called it Gopher wood in them days, now we know it was resin made by the go-for(apprentice). Thats probly why it took 50yrs to build it, continually cutting it up and adding length as more animals was discovered and he musta had your BBq eating and beer drinking mates to turn it over.

Looks good so far.

I'm going to enjoy the streamlined Pelin for a few summers then have a chainsaw party in the delaminating cabin once I have used it and know whats important eg Bait fridge seperate from food fridge. Farrrrk yea, do da separate fridge thing mate!!!! erm, dont ya hate it wen u've really cleaned ur hands and then.... ur nose..... still stinks!

Hiya Muzza, chit the shed got itself blown to bits 2day, phlat as'a pancake, wait a few weeks to let wind settle then build in again, new pipe (X2), new tarp, lottsa zip ties, can still glass tho, just tarp ova the hull screwed to the gunwales all round. Ain't no stoppin now!
Talkin of chain saws, I agree with ur cabin shape now,Brian convinced me, never thought of the interior side of it, lottsa room. I'll be cuttin the hull in half and adding a metre in width now.... buger, just cant seem to find a place to put the kettle in the cabin.....

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hahahahahahahaha goodonyer Brian....... thunking aboat it..... we did this with new 'models' of fiberglass boats when I was apprentice, sliced up a smaller one, spaced out the parts as was required, temp filled in the blank bits, eye'd her up, chop'd and changed till it looked great, mixed half a 44 gal drum of bog, stood back an threw it on, then poor young apprentices - me - had to sand, fill, sand, fill, fair, fill'n sand till the fingers bleed, sprayed her up, cut'n polished, waxed 7 times, then took a mould off her. Then much more sanding wet'n dry till boss says so, cut'n polish, 7 more waxings, ready for the first lay up and pull - fingers crossed....
Gould those days the bog was made in shop, polyester resin and talc, chit you got real good at putting it on as the stuff was like rock sanding it, I got good at it quick!

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Test pilots huh..... you wait'n see..............

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Ah yus! V8's rule! so does da friggin gas pump! Yes Muzza, poxy everythink, hat coat barter bullits - da lot. Aboat to glass all that hasn't been done, then get the Saw'all and cut her up the middle, add 3 ft an glass some more...... WOT?
Watch this space, oh, an Brians eyes!

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yea true, but at my age, I forget what I'm gonna put up there!
But, a wee trick, if I miss blocking or later want to screw down something, Ill drill a 10mm hole where the screw(s) are to go, then using an L shape alan key in a drill, poke the small end in the hole a pull da trigger, that get the foam loose! vac out the rubbish and fill up with epoxy resin, thicken up a little too,pourable though. Your local vet my sell you a large syringe that'll squirt it in too.

Ed

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A little more progress down aft, inside pic is the layered ply to stiffen up the transom when the door is cut out, 25mm of ply where it counts and 36mm of Jarra (Ozzie Hard hard plurry hard wood) laminated either side.
The 1" cleat on the LVL is to put a curve to the deck, thinking of a 1/2" ply to the LVL in the cockpit sole for water runoff thwart ships....

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Mmmmmm..... I want to laminate the coach roof too, prob use Divinacell - AU$280 a 20mm (3/4 frozen inches) sheet..... wot? and eithe r3mm ply sandwiched or perhaps glass direct to the foam, want to have the roof back a fair bit to cover us from the Perth sun and those 40 deg daz.... really not keen on any framing below the roof, and insulation is also a real concern so prob bight da bullet (lol) and buy 4 sheets - 2.050 x 1200 x 20mm, maybe another for the cuddy roof too.....

Do you have to vacuum bag that stuff if you are laminating layers of wood onto it?  Seems like it would make sense and I know there are 'hacker' ways of doing it with shop vacs and what not ...if you don't already have the equipment.  I've never tried it, nor have I looked too deeply into it.  Another option is to create a sandwich roof that's filled with standard polyurethane or polyethylene (my preference) foam.  I think Renn Tolman's book has details on doing it this way, and/or you can contact Neal Schlee at http://www.lasertechalaska.com and he'll send you pix on how he did it ...the guy's a craftsman.  Cheaper than the divine-o-cell fancy shmancy stuff...  Tell him I sent ya...

Brian
Yea vacuum bagging is simple Brian and and yes I will vac the coach roof, vac really makes for building all sorts of elements in the build if you are a ditherererreer like me.... never been keen on Polyurethane - slightest movement ova time and it crumbles at the veneer layer to dust an oh heck the pain when a little mountain size gets in ur eye!
I agree on that foam too.... plurry expensive AUD$280 a 2M sheet 3/4".
Bean thunking, perhaps 2 x 3/16th spaced apart with 30H x 15mm W 'stringers' @ 200 centers fore'n aft, BUT still needs  cross 'frames' @ 2 ft centers, to hold the curve, under it's own weight it will sag ova time. Perhaps polystyrene foam infill for insulation - we need that here.
Inexpensive and in the water I say!

You can use the compressor off an old fridge for smaller work like veneering doors, foam sandwich hatches, even sandwich panel with 1/8th ply and foam for that 800mm wide hatch on the cockpit sole (deck a'la Alaskan) this stops that springy feel to 1/2" ply even with the cleats you designed in. Generally people don't like 1 to 2mm floor movement....
Looking at a woodworker machine shop today - fatal o the wallet! out the back they had various wood veneers, got to thunking, Mmmmmmm nice transom look..... easy to vac on see.... just the maintenance Brian, even with the space-age tech in coatings these daz, high uv here and NZ too aye Muzza.

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Nobody builds slower than me... my boat's been in-progress for about 8 years if I recall (my memories only good for a few days ...not years)

bd
hahahahahahaha

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Yea kinda good idea, I understand the waste space, seems a Lotta work, not sure it wood look good..... mull that one ova, more eye thunk aboat it, might look ok.... round bilge helps too.
Pelin did lots of nice looking designs.
Wen eye wos apprentice back 100 yrs ago eye wanted to build one of his yachts, 26 ft cant remember the design name. Never did, too many cars'n girls! an 11's sat mornings too

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Mmmmmm..... I want to laminate the coach roof too, prob use Divinacell - AU$280 a 20mm (3/4 frozen inches) sheet..... wot? and eithe r3mm ply sandwiched or perhaps glass direct to the foam, want to have the roof back a fair bit to cover us from the Perth sun and those 40 deg daz.... really not keen on any framing below the roof, and insulation is also a real concern so prob bight da bullet (lol) and buy 4 sheets - 2.050 x 1200 x 20mm, maybe another for the cuddy roof too.....

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! typo? wheel or u mean real? lol

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