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Great Alaskan and Boat Building => General Discussion about the Great Alaskan => Topic started by: Todd j on January 16, 2018, 06:50:26 AM
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Any armchair structural engineers out there? I have been feverishly prepping an old barn to house my build. It is 20' wide and 30 feet long. I plan to build a shed roof enclosure at the end to extend my work space. Thus far I have leveled the building to my satisfaction. Pored footings and am in the process of replacing wall studs and sheeting. While all this was going on I removed the sagging wood floor. That gave me another 1 1-2 feet or so of headroom.
Here's the question. What is the best way to get rid of ceiling joists to make a semi cathedral ceiling. First off I doubt I can get/afford a engineered beam for the ridge due to its length. I have several ideas. Easiest would be to use collar ties to make my adjusted ceiling height. And truss them in. Any thoughts?
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Trusses...
Get the trial download of the s/w below - I believe it even has a 20x30 structure as an example:
https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00068/creating-a-vaulted-ceiling-and-scissor-trusses.html
bd
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I believe I could do something just like that. I would rather be cutting plywood!
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I believe I could do something just like that. I would rather be cutting plywood!
Perhaps you can leave the rafters in place, just removing a single joist at a time, building the vaulted-ceiling trusses in place one at a time? The rafters that are already there can certainly be a part of the trusses....
Brian
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Definitely
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Thought I would post a quick update.
My boat shed is really taking form. To date I have raised saggy walls to my satisfaction, poured footings and reframed 3 of four walls, framed for windows and repurposed a lot of shiplap siding. I think the roof framing will be next on the list. I predict plywood in the dry before the end of march.
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Cool .... good progress! And more fun than a bathroom or kitchen remodel.... :( :)
bd
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I have slowly been killing myself off working over my boat shed. Since my last update I have finished 1/2 of the scissor trusses. I'm going to gain an extra 2 1/2 feet. I intend to send a before and after picture once I get finished with more work. It's a very substantial change I intended to build on gravel but now I'm thinking to pour concrete.
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Before and after pictures would be great.... :-*
bd
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Trusses are complete minus some gussets! All the windows are framed and I have been replacing lots of shiplap siding. Still have a lot of work to do but it feels good to get the major structural stuff behind me. Next will be a couple doors and a new roof. Planning on metal roof and possibly metal siding. I don't want to ever need to repainted the building. Depends mostly on the upfront price. All these upgrades are sadly coming out of my boat fund. I have been fortunate to recover some cost of materials by unloading junk on CL
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All the structural goodies are complete. Swinging doors are operational. Built a sliding barn wood door to walk through. Ran out of repurpose-able shiplap so one end wall and sidewall will be sheathed with 1/2" plywood on the inside. My buddy works at a plywood mill and I got a deal! 44 sheets for 3$ each. Should have it by the weekend. This weekend I installed 3 of the six windows and built 2 more from materials on hand. I have one more to make then all the holes in the building are plugged. I got a quote for metal roofing and siding so that will be the next big project. The building overall is exceeding my original expectations and will serve me well in the future I'm sure. It has also exceeded my original budget, several thousand dollars by now. No real surprise. It has really set me back. But, I hope it will allow me to build in relative comfort and year round.
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All good and no surprise on the cost factor! Are you going to provide heat? Wood stove?
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I plan on building a wood stove with a forced air heat exchanger. I need a couple bad water heaters to start this project. I think I will pour a slab first. My project is coming along better than I originally imagined. That itself is mostly why I have kept building beyond the budget. Before and after pics will say it all
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I plan on building a wood stove with a forced air heat exchanger. I need a couple bad water heaters to start this project. I think I will pour a slab first. My project is coming along better than I originally imagined. That itself is mostly why I have kept building beyond the budget. Before and after pics will say it all
You can put in a wood stove pretty cheaply ... those horizontal Vogelzang wood stoves work fine, as do the 'caboose' (vertical small pot-belly) stoves, and barrel stoves (get a kit at Amazon). Pipe is cheap if you just use a horizontal double-wall pass-through through the side of the building. Bricks and sand, boxed-in with 2x4s, works fine for a hearth .... people in Alaska heat cabins like this all the time ... on the cheap.
bd
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I'm too cheap and handy to go the vogelzang route although they look cool. Have built barrel stove for a Elk tent. I hadn't considered any hearth. I'm not sure what you are suggesting with the brick, sand, and lumber. I might hit the google machine up and see
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I'm too cheap and handy to go the vogelzang route although they look cool. Have built barrel stove for a Elk tent. I hadn't considered any hearth. I'm not sure what you are suggesting with the brick, sand, and lumber. I might hit the google machine up and see
Hearth: Think "brick path that's boxed in on 4 sides with wood".... Just lay out bricks where you want the stove in your shop, frame them in with wood to keep them from shifting from where you put them, and fill all cracks by sweeping sand around on top of the bricks. Cheap and fast.
bd
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Ok that's easy. What function does the hearth serve? Seems unnecessary on a slab floor.
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Ok that's easy. What function does the hearth serve? Seems unnecessary on a slab floor.
I didn't remember that you have a slab floor .... scratch the hearth idea :)
Brian
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Gotcha. No slab yet. Soon hopefully. Before the build is the plan
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Waiting for a break in the weather to install new roof and siding. Have done some painting inside the building. Really brightens things up. Soon I will resume sheeting interior walls as my unit of plywood arrived yesterday. My good buddy dropped of a unit of 1/2" HDO with another 10 sheets of 3/4" HDO. Too bad there is not much use for it on the boat project. It would sure go along way!! I almost feel bad cutting it for sheeting and shelving
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Waiting for a break in the weather to install new roof and siding. Have done some painting inside the building. Really brightens things up. Soon I will resume sheeting interior walls as my unit of plywood arrived yesterday. My good buddy dropped of a unit of 1/2" HDO with another 10 sheets of 3/4" HDO. Too bad there is not much use for it on the boat project. It would sure go along way!! I almost feel bad cutting it for sheeting and shelving
Even a little progress is progress, and as long as there's progress, it'll get done! I painted the inside of my shop with 'drywall paint' - a sealing type of primer to prep drywall for real paint. Just turning the grayish drywall into white walls made a huge lighting difference. It's amazing how much light reflects around the room if you go with all white...
Brian
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It's been pretty dead here awhile so I thought I would liven things up with a update on my building. Finished painting the doors and one of the long walls. Over half way done painting! I now have the new siding completed minus 1 corner flashing. The gutter is on. OT is messing me up for getting the new roof installed. I figure at my pace I need a three day weekend to get it in the dry. Next one of those is likely Memorial Day weekend. On the roof isn't my first choice for activities, it needs done so I can get the slab in and screw off for awhile.
Cheers
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It's been pretty dead here awhile so I thought I would liven things up with a update on my building. Finished painting the doors and one of the long walls. Over half way done painting! I now have the new siding completed minus 1 corner flashing. The gutter is on. OT is messing me up for getting the new roof installed. I figure at my pace I need a three day weekend to get it in the dry. Next one of those is likely Memorial Day weekend. On the roof isn't my first choice for activities, it needs done so I can get the slab in and screw off for awhile.
Cheers
Get pix when you can! Boat or shop ... it's fun to see the progress!
Roofs ... ugh. I fell 14 feet a few years ago and landed flat on my face (think "push up position" ... arm out trying to break my fall). It trashed both my shoulders. The right-hand one's been rebuilt to the tune of $85,000 and the left is something I just suffer along with (pain) and will get fixed if it gets worse. Bottom line is that it really took all the fun out of ladders and roofs. I pay others to do that kind of work anymore ... my shoulders cannot stand any further damage, so I take the risk of falling (again) very seriously .... like I said ... UGGHHHHH!!!! Not for me....
Brian
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I'm scared!! I bought fall pro!
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fall pro? Insurance like 'fall protection'? LOL.... we call that 'life insurance' :D
bd
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ftp:// (ftp://)
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A couple shots before I started improving my building
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Under construction
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This should have been ahead of the last one
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I have done more painting since this was taken
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I don't know why some photos came out upsideways and super huge. Suggestions for next time ?
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Wow! What a huge amount of work you've done! The vaulted ceiling came out nice, didn't it! How much height did you gain inside the shop?
bd
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Yes it has been several hundred hours of work I'm sure. More to go. Hard to get much done when your only home 2 days a week. It is at least 2 feet at the door where it counts. I think after I level the dirt and add gravel and concrete I will gain about
Foot or so. More in the middle, before you reach the
Door Of course. I was running out of gable for the
Door size I was shooting for. Needed room for a header too. Per another of my posts I will have no less than 9'-3".
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Really love the pix and info ... the shop upgrades are great. About the only way to grab another inch or two in the door due to 'running out of gable' is to use a steel I-beam instead of a wood or wood laminate beam. I had a garage where I thought about going that route once ... but ended up living with it as-is. Cost is always a factor - and why I didn't bother with the I-beam.
Brian
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If you look closely you can see that to go higher I would have to be narrower. I think I need the width to make the tight turn coming out of the building. Once out unfortunately it will never fit back in.
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Yes it has been several hundred hours of work I'm sure. More to go. Hard to get much done when your only home 2 days a week. It is at least 2 feet at the door where it counts. I think after I level the dirt and add gravel and concrete I will gain about
Foot or so. More in the middle, before you reach the
Door Of course. I was running out of gable for the
Door size I was shooting for. Needed room for a header too. Per another of my posts I will have no less than 9'-3".
If you run a truss directly over the door, you wouldn’t need a header as the truss would carry the roof load...
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If you look closely you can see that to go higher I would have to be narrower. I think I need the width to make the tight turn coming out of the building. Once out unfortunately it will never fit back in.
I cleared the OHD by four inches. Once off the jig and on the trailer, it was too tall to go back in. I have considered putting a 14, OHD on the end facing the street, because I can get a fourteen foot door in there. Haven’t found the ambition yet though.
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I didn’t consider trussing the opening. That would have a big ol’ Opening in the end of the building. I’m not so disappointed in hindsight since I can never get it back in there, especially trailered. A rectangular opening was simple to build doors for. I am still amazed what my elbow grease has got me to this point. I am however losing steam!
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This past weekend I was able to do some roof demo. My ridge had some weird continuous cupola/vent thingy. It had 4 layers of asphalt shingles on it. 30+ feet of it must have nearly 800 pounds or more. I did manage to get the steel roof on one side before I got heat stroked. Too hot, too soon! Spent the next 18 hours in bed to sick to do anything. Not smart!
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This past weekend I was able to do some roof demo. My ridge had some weird continuous cupola/vent thingy. It had 4 layers of asphalt shingles on it. 30+ feet of it must have nearly 800 pounds or more. I did manage to get the steel roof on one side before I got heat stroked. Too hot, too soon! Spent the next 18 hours in bed to sick to do anything. Not smart!
Don't overdo the sun exposure!
4 layers of shingles if crazy! Even 2 layers is too heavy .... glad to hear that stuff is coming down and new metal roofing is going up.
Brian
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I now have all but one gable to flash and one outside corner! At least it’s dry inside now. I am a little dissatisfied with my ability to make honey from dog poop in this leg of the project. I have been able to make everything look pretty good so far. It was impossible to get it “ right “ when nothing is plumb, level, square, or straight. It is what it is I guess. The dry stuff inside don’t care anyhow! At least I have a 4 day weekend to screw off before I return to OT. Probably rain anyway.
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Pick a good milestone and take a little break .... breaks are part of the project! As for out of plumb... well, every house or building I've ever seen was non-square or off in something. Try taking a few measurements and checking a few corners on other buildings sometime. You'll only notice these things when you are building and checking. On the first house that my dad and I built, we were super careful, wanting everything to be 'right' ... and when the sheetrock guy came over to do the sheetrocking, he said "Wow! I've never seen a house so square before!" (and he was experienced .... 'Ding! Light turns on! Don't waste time making things perfect square! Get the job done!". Things are only square in the CAD drawings..... :)
Brian
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The local home improvement store had LED light fixtures on sale for 15$. I bought 12 of them and added 6 in the building. I wired them so the could swing down and hang on the wall as well as from overhead. There is a lot of light in there now. Built 3 or 4 more sets of saw horses. I need to run a circuit out there for power tools, maybe one for a welder too. If the darn OT would end I would try to get a estimate for a slab. That’s about all that’s left. I’m getting nervous that the quotes will come in higher than I want to spend.
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I think it's a good idea to go with all-LED lighting nowadays. It's bright enough (after so many years of development) and cheap to operate. As for those quotes? When I had various parts of my shop built, I got quotes that were all over the map .... some were double what others were. Be sure to get a few and spend a little time talking to those that do the quoting so you can get a feel for the quality of their work (versus cost).
Brian
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One step closer. Got the dirt leveled out in prep for gravel. Taking a much needed break to put up some Kokanee.
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Good on ya!
Kokanee? Where do you live? I've got my little teensy 14' skiff all prepped but have made it out just once .... the boat moves too quickly, even at idle, so I got a sea anchor to drag along... haven't tried it yet.
Brian
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We live in Veneta, Or. Just west of Eugene. We like to fish at crescent lake. The limits are low, but the scenery is great and the water is crystal clear
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We live in Veneta, Or. Just west of Eugene. We like to fish at crescent lake. The limits are low, but the scenery is great and the water is crystal clear
Have you gone up to Green Peter? It's a spectacular beauty, limits are high ... but it's a long lake and you have to have a boat that'll get you there in order to fish it effectively. My driftboat with 6-hp motor wasn't up to snuff....
Brian
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I currently have a 21’ phantom sport Jon with a 200 Optimax. Currently for sale. It’s our Kokanee chaser. I also have a zodiac mark V hd wth a 115 tiller steer. The latter being my dive/reef fishing rig.
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I currently have a 21’ phantom sport Jon with a 200 Optimax. Currently for sale. It’s our Kokanee chaser. I also have a zodiac mark V hd wth a 115 tiller steer. The latter being my dive/reef fishing rig.
If you're careful and stay close to shore, the 200 hp Optimix 'might' get you home (LOL ... ::))
Brian
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Runs like a raped ape! No freeboard !
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Runs like a raped ape! No freeboard !
;D :o 8)
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Brian, care to expand on your Optimax hate. I’ll tell ya a little story after I hear back
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Brian, care to expand on your Optimax hate. I’ll tell ya a little story after I hear back
I don't hate Optimaxes! It was a joke about the hot horsepower...
Brian
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Oh. Ok. Anyway. I’m a firm believer about putting all the law will allow on the transom. That’s why I have a 115 on my inner tube boat. So, Saturday I had a guy who was hot for my jet boat. Drove from Idaho. I had THE boat he was looking for. Of course that made my price firm and no room for wiggle. I got to the launch a hour before he was expected and put the boat in. As it happened this was day 2 of our Kokanee extravaganza and we had not left the house since I had one on the line.
Sooo. I backed the boat off the trailer and did a lazy swoop out across the river and the boat started to crap out. I got it pointed up stream and got the kicker rigged and started. By now I was without power and just above the first little riffle. I couldn’t manage any forward progress to speak of. I got it to the bank on the last bit of gravel before there was no place to tie off or stand. Lots of cutbank downriver. I blasted my way through the blackberry brush and brambles to the launch where my wife was waiting with a WTF look on her face. I was covered with cottonwood blowy things and scratched up like I was lovin on a littler of barn cats.
Long story short Idaho guy and his wife were great. He was a diesel mechanic and new stufff. We re rigged the kicker motor’s tank and pulled some hoses off the Optimax and squeeze balled the motor to life on the trailer. All this after my buddy drug me back with his v8 I board jet.
Cost me 3K with no leverage to sell. It’s gone now and I have a sack of dollars for the ne t project
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I had bad luck like that once ... running my driftboat on Green Peter Reservoir in Oregon with a big electric motor on it. There were so many you-know-what's at the dock when I was trying to put in, and NOT letting me in even though I was yelling that my battery was dying. I was stuck motoring against the wind and unable to dock ... until the battery did run out. Yelling for someone to toss a rope only got angry stares ..... as I drift away on the wind. Rowed/ran the boat up against a mud bank at the bottom of rocky cliffs on the far side of the lake and waited until the wind dropped ...due to the sun going down, THEN we were able to row back to the dock. Sucked - lost lots of hours. People at boat ramps can really suck.... And I've been a HUGE fan of using ONLY gas motors ever since then.
bd
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People are assholes! Kokanee fishing good. 5 man limits in a hour or so. Fish average a 3” bigger over years past.
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People are assholes! Kokanee fishing good. 5 man limits in a hour or so. Fish average a 3” bigger over years past.
Good on the Kokes. They're running big here this year too :). 16" or longer at Anderson Ranch already.... they'll hit 20" by season's end.
Brian
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We live in Veneta, Or. Just west of Eugene. We like to fish at crescent lake. The limits are low, but the scenery is great and the water is crystal clear
When you limit at Crescent, head down to Odell and do it again. Makes for an exceptional day...
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Odell has broke my stuff expensive like every time I go there. It’s on the ban list. Now since I’m kinda boat less I’m at the mercy of those that will put up with my company. As it was I brought back 75 kokes. I still want to get in a good jigging bite there. Crescent is good for about 20 minutes and your limited some days.
I’d rather have halibut!!!
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Keeping up with the building upgrades and repairs is still delaying my boat building progress. I’ve enough momentum to continue with other projects on my outbuildings. My “shop” has needed some lovin so I have been trying to wrap that up as well. These upgrades include new roof, enclosed soffit, new siding, and a minor adjustment to a saggy overhead door header, and a office-ish room inside the shop. I’m convinced this will be the last of it for this season. With the lights in the boat barn all I have left is to add in the power outlets, work benches, cabinets/shelving type stuff. Kinda wa to wait on that as I e yet to visualize a boat in there.
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... Probably the first boat of a few, so may as well get that shop straightened out!
bd
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I did finally get a concrete contractor to look at my boat barn. We agreed on a price and momma gets a new 4’ wide sidewalk from the drive to the front porch out of the deal. He will bring in a bobcat and do some dirt work too. That should give me a couple more inches of overhead door clearance! Now I just gotta get him back to get going on it! Progress!
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Yay! Progress! Good idea to gain a couple of inches with some dirt work ... the more room the better. :D
Brian
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Everything is formed up and all the rebar tied and ready for a pour. 2 hours on a bobcat and my concrete contractor has gained me 4 inches of headroom. Final number is 9’-7” door opening. That almost seems tall enough for the boat on a trailer. I may need to rethink my build plan a bit and consider that I may be able to get the whole rig back in there trailered. I have been looking at a battery powered trailer mover that may work well in my situation.
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You need to post before and after pix ... you've done a tremendous job on your shop!
Probably too late now, but a steel beam header over the garage door will gain you a few inches versus using a standard wood-beam (glu-lams or LVL) header.
Brian
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I will do that. The opening is what it is now. With everything I’ve done I’m early 10 times over budget. It’s almost time to build a boat
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I will do that. The opening is what it is now. With everything I’ve done I’m early 10 times over budget. It’s almost time to build a boat
You've done an outstanding job ... sorry about the shop budget! I know how that goes. My shop in Alaska started out as a "think garden shed ... but bigger with more square footage" and turned into a $60k 2-floor project! I could've built TWO boats for the price of the ONE shop...
Brian
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I’m having trouble posting pics. Using attachments and other options, choose attachment from my camera roll and try to post. It won’t allow that type of file. It’s just a cell phone pic. What am I doing wrong?
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I’m having trouble posting pics. Using attachments and other options, choose attachment from my camera roll and try to post. It won’t allow that type of file. It’s just a cell phone pic. What am I doing wrong?
Good question! Can you email me an example image file? Send to brian dot dixon AT glacierboats dot com
It could be a file type issue, a file size issue, dimensions issue ... I'll know more when I get an example file that refuses to work. We'll fix it one way or another ... people want to see your pix!
bd
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Ok. can screenshot my attempt too
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Ok. can screenshot my attempt too
I updated some important settings ... try your attachments again now :)
Brian
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Thx. I will give it try this eve
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It ain’t perfect, but it’s perfectly functional!
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Looks great to me! Are you going to add work benches? For boat building, I find it useful to have a mid-sized bench with solid caster wheels that lets you move it around now and then - same for an epoxy bench. When do you think you'll start cutting wood and messing up your beautiful new floor? :D
Brian
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I was planning a stationary bench 16’ long to the left of the swinging doors. Double barrel wood burner with forced air heat exchanger on the opposite side. Flu pipe would likely interfere with the door opening all the way so that’s not solid yet. Couple of home built cabinets between windows aft of the work bench, and a shelf up high in the gable above the cedar covered wall. I scored some 8” swivel casters that are super duty with grease zerks. I still have loose ends outside. I want everything done before I bring in wood. It’s getting close, but I shot the wad. I need another pile of money. Was hoping to not have to dip into my money from the sale of the phantom. We shall see.
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It's OK to take a break and recuperate the finances ... pretty typical to do that. Just buy enough to build the transom and get that done, then it'll be forever nagging you to come back and add the rest of the boat. You don't want to accidentally postpone the project so long that you never do get your really cool new Great Alaskan!
Brian
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I can’t even make up my mind what it is I want to to build. Stringers might be a better bet! It’ll happen soon enough. I’m now toying with the idea of making a door between the boat barn and my office-ish space I have yet to build. I need another purge to make more headway. Have too much unused building material in my way to really even start the build.
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Meanwhile on another note. This was taken a couple weeks ago. Some friends put it up on FB. It’s caused quite a stir. Anyway, hope you guys like the pic if nothing else. I sure do!
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Scuba diving for baby ling cod eh? We usually throw the small ones like that back .... HAHAHAAA... Sweet catch! ::) ;D 8)
Brian
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We don't shoot the bog ones.
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Should have read big ones. Read out loud sounds like a cult leader from Antelope.
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Made a little more progress. I painted the end of the building. Didn’t put metal on the sides visible from the house. We’re not locked into any particular color that way. Wired the building for power, just need to pop in a new breaker to the panel. I shuffled some stuff and got rid of a trailer full of junk. Can’t believe how much junk I kept over the last 20 years. The new office is next. It should allow me a nice place to draw and look over plans.
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Thanks for the update. We did something similar on breakers .... the house had a 200A drop, but only about 85A accounted for in house circuits/breakers and never had a problem. So when I built the shop, I split the main into two 100A mains, one that went underground for 150' over to the shop. People say "not less than 200!" for shops ... but hey, I ran a 100% duty cycle heavy duty Ingersoll Rand air compressor and a host of tools, 2 floors of lighting and plug-ins etc off that 100A without any problems!
Brian
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The boat building office is taking shape. I added a 12x12 office adjacent to the boat shed. Plan on a sliding door between the spaces. Needed a place to plug in a laptop and spread out drawings without using up shop space. The new room will have room for a beverage fridge and freezer for bait and gathered goodies. A desk and a small bench go in to spread out junk without clobbering up the computer desk. Might even put up a couple trophy mounts for some ambiance. All framed in, and sheeted with HDO plywood so every surface will take a nail. Little paint and will start moving in the finish part’s.
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I like the office space idea ... you'll be glad to keep the fine random-orbital sander induced dust out of your computer and off of everything in your office too! Keep the pix coming!
Brian
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Meanwhile on another note. This was taken a couple weeks ago. Some friends put it up on FB. It’s caused quite a stir. Anyway, hope you guys like the pic if nothing else. I sure do!
How much did this monster weigh???
Thx,
Brian
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That fish was just over 30 pounds. Our best is 2 inches longer and 37 pounds. Those takes make for some pretty good fish stories. I have several vids on my YouTube channel if anyone wants to watch spearfishing and lobster hunting.
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Got a link or a name to search for to find your video channel? Are you in the picture above? We'll have ling cod in a few days .... from Louie's Wild Alaskan Seafood in Boise, Idaho ... Alaskan fishing family with their own boat, onboard flash freezing and vacuum packing ... and they process immediately upon catching. It doesn't get much better than that except for the fun of catching it yourself. Louie's comes into town twice a year, 4 weeks or so each time depending on how the catch went.
Thx,
Brian
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I’m the guy holding the skinny end. My channel is teamshootemintheface. I’m not a videographer. Just cut and paste more or less.
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I’m the guy holding the skinny end. My channel is teamshootemintheface. I’m not a videographer. Just cut and paste more or less.
Awesome ... I'll check into your channel. :)
bd
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Took some time to go lobster diving. Had a good time and got a freezer full of Bugs til next season. Got the office space finished minus some finish work. Built a few shelves to stack stuff on in the old shop. There is never enough room for all my junk no matter where it goes. Need another building!
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Where exactly are you located? Lobsters ... love'm :)
We've been in our house here in Idaho (we moved out of Alaska) for around 2 years and we're not even halfway done with the projects around here ... mostly storage and yard stuff, and house/property maintenance (previous owners let a lot of things just go.....). We caught our fish when the guy at Louie's Wild Alaskan Fish threw them at us ..... haha. He and his family fish AK commercially and do instant on-board filleting, vacuum packing, and flash freezing ... sushi grade across the board. We drop about $300/year at his place ... he stops in Boise just once a year for a couple of weeks and then gone. That's the one thing we miss about Alaska - the fishing and fresh fish!
Brian
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I live in a little town named Veneta in Oregon. We do our lobster diving in Channel Islands off the coast of Santa Barbara Ca. As life would have it my fish stocks are low. I smoke most of my lings and rockfish and eat a fillet a day with lunch.
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I know right where you're at ... we just drove through there on this summer's vacation over to the coast. We covered the Lincoln City to Florence stretch, north to south, then headed back through Eugene (with no stops there!) and up the McKenzie River hwy and over to Bend .... then across the desert back to Ida-who....
Brian
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Today I think I finished the building build. Sit down and stand up work areas installed, both doors finished. I had ratholed 2 countertops and 2 solid birch fire doors from a old job. They been sitting around for ten years. Nice to put them to work. Built a bookshelf and wired in a welder circuit and sheeted the inside of my old shop. Got lots of stuff on shelves in the old shop too. I’m so done there isn’t even a punch list!! I have a huge shoulder mount of a bull elk to bring home now that I have a place to hang it. No more work on the office til it lands on the wall.
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From the archives
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Awesome elk... and with a bow too! Definitely will look good in the man cave :)
bd
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What state are you in. Nice elk
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I caught up with honey do list long enough to make it into the boat shed for a day and a half. My wood stove idea wasn’t well received so I built myself a gravity fed pellet stove. Haven’t had a chance to fire it up yet. Still have probably a days worth of fine tuning. Hope this thing works!
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Interesting ... You'll have to let us know how it turns out .... Up in Alaska, at least in the interior (Fairbanks and points north) where transfer stations are used for local garbage drop-off, including lots of waste oil from oil changes and other sources, people use a modified/improved version of the Mother Earth Waste Oil Heater. I was building the 'improved version' right about the time we moved out of Fairbanks down to the Anchorage area ... never completed it, but it would've meant free heat for the shop:
(http://www.journeytoforever.org/media/j/jmena.jpg)
http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html
Brian
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If this works like I hope it does? I plan to add a oil burner to use up motor and cooking oil that I normally would recycle or just dump out. Our climate is such that I expect this stove will not get used as steady as it would further north. It should at least take the chill off
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If this works like I hope it does? I plan to add a oil burner to use up motor and cooking oil that I normally would recycle or just dump out. Our climate is such that I expect this stove will not get used as steady as it would further north. It should at least take the chill off
The original Mother Earth News version had a design flaw... the way it worked, the hotter the flame burned, the more oil that would be fed to the burner ... positive feedback loop makes for big'm fire!! To counter that, you had to keep tweaking the oil flow valve to reduce the flow. The first redesign (see the link) worked well and fixed this issue - a friend of mine outside of Fox, Alaska used it full time in his shop and it worked great. Probably the biggest downside is that the oil needs to be gravity fed, which means you have to refill something that's higher than the heater ... up a ladder, stairs, or up a hillside outside the shop. Regardless, if using free oil (or even buying cheap dirty used oil), the heater DOES work well....
Brian
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Something wonky with this forum. I cannot post pics Brian.
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It's all snowy and cold here. I did some messing around in the shop this weekend. Outside Temps in the mid to upper 30s and low 40s during the day. With the pellet stove burning and a fan in the rafters I got the far end of the building to 60 degrees. 5 minutes with the diesel salamander and Temps to 70. I did get it up to 80 in there and the windows in my office started to sweat. I put a thermometer in there so I finally know what's going on. I'm calling the stove a success.
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It's all snowy and cold here. I did some messing around in the shop this weekend. Outside Temps in the mid to upper 30s and low 40s during the day. With the pellet stove burning and a fan in the rafters I got the far end of the building to 60 degrees. 5 minutes with the diesel salamander and Temps to 70. I did get it up to 80 in there and the windows in my office started to sweat. I put a thermometer in there so I finally know what's going on. I'm calling the stove a success.
That's awesome! It'll really extend your shop time during cooler weather. I love heat from wood ... any kind of wood. Something about it is just more natural, maybe it's the fact that it's radiant heat or something .... but I like it!
Brian