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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Little help please
« on: May 30, 2020, 07:28:23 PM »
I have no clue either! I know that one end goes to the lower unit.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Bob from Olympia, 28 GA build
« on: May 30, 2020, 07:24:49 PM »
Making slow progress, rear steering station and battery box is in progress. pieces cut today and glassing them before the install.
Helm and seat boxes are done, still need to mount up the heater so the list keeps getting longer.
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Helm and seat boxes are done, still need to mount up the heater so the list keeps getting longer.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Bob from Olympia, 28 GA build
« on: May 30, 2020, 07:13:29 PM »
Another thought, the support can be cut out of 2x material and notch it for the support and you could even leave enough room around the perimeter to add an adhesive type bubble seal. The seal you should figure out first then make the clearances match the seal.
Here is a pretty narrow one:
https://www.amazon.com/Trim-Lok-D-Shaped-Rubber-Seal-Sensitive/dp/B00NL4BKKG/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?crid=3LB88QRDXPYUZ&cv_ct_cx=d-shaped+rubber+seal&dchild=1&keywords=d-shaped+rubber+seal&pd_rd_i=B00NL4BKKG&pd_rd_r=32e5fdb2-686f-4cb8-bfc0-5598786ce6b3&pd_rd_w=K2BCv&pd_rd_wg=uhs1f&pf_rd_p=183579a1-f0e6-4556-8e39-8fe08e8f8141&pf_rd_r=V6FP51E7792X8M81SGMX&psc=1&qid=1590887536&sprefix=d-shaped+%2Ctools%2C269&sr=1-1-dd5817a1-1ba7-46c2-8996-f96e7b0f409c
Here is a pretty narrow one:
https://www.amazon.com/Trim-Lok-D-Shaped-Rubber-Seal-Sensitive/dp/B00NL4BKKG/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?crid=3LB88QRDXPYUZ&cv_ct_cx=d-shaped+rubber+seal&dchild=1&keywords=d-shaped+rubber+seal&pd_rd_i=B00NL4BKKG&pd_rd_r=32e5fdb2-686f-4cb8-bfc0-5598786ce6b3&pd_rd_w=K2BCv&pd_rd_wg=uhs1f&pf_rd_p=183579a1-f0e6-4556-8e39-8fe08e8f8141&pf_rd_r=V6FP51E7792X8M81SGMX&psc=1&qid=1590887536&sprefix=d-shaped+%2Ctools%2C269&sr=1-1-dd5817a1-1ba7-46c2-8996-f96e7b0f409c
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Bob from Olympia, 28 GA build
« on: May 30, 2020, 07:05:05 PM »
I did not install drain and I am hoping the seal does a fairly good job keeping most of the stuff out of the fish box. Not worried about the ones in the wheelhouse.
I thought about it but talked myself out of the extra trouble (for me) Fish in the box wont be there more than a day so if a little water ( fish slime etc) gets in there I dont think it will hurt anything.
I am getting side tracked till next Thursday, leaving tomorrow to do some shrimping in the San Juans. That should help my attitude.
I thought about it but talked myself out of the extra trouble (for me) Fish in the box wont be there more than a day so if a little water ( fish slime etc) gets in there I dont think it will hurt anything.
I am getting side tracked till next Thursday, leaving tomorrow to do some shrimping in the San Juans. That should help my attitude.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Bob from Olympia, 28 GA build
« on: May 30, 2020, 11:58:04 AM »
I have a few, they are overbuilt mainly because of one friend that weights close to 300lbs and they do not flex when he walked on them. Depending on the size of the hatch 1/2" and 3/4" with glass in the middle may be stiff enough.
I originally bought latches but other than the fish box I wont be using them, probably just drill a hole big enough to get a good size finger into.
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I originally bought latches but other than the fish box I wont be using them, probably just drill a hole big enough to get a good size finger into.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Bob from Olympia, 28 GA build
« on: May 25, 2020, 11:13:31 PM »
Thanks for reading it, I have been making some progress just not enough to make a post but soon.
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Projects - Glacier Boats of Alaska boat projects / Re: 28 GA in Pagosa Springs colorado
« on: May 25, 2020, 11:11:24 PM »
That is a beautiful sight! I cant wait to see it in the water which looks to be soon and I am amazed how fast your boat is coming together.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Outdoor build of GA Kodiak, Orange, CA
« on: May 18, 2020, 12:04:10 PM »
Just found a great article on bonding to aluminum:
https://www.permabond.com/materials_bonded/how-to-bond-aluminum/
https://www.permabond.com/materials_bonded/how-to-bond-aluminum/
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Bob from Olympia, 28 GA build
« on: May 17, 2020, 09:13:54 PM »
Whole lotta nothing happening fast here.
Ordered the hydraulic steering and ready to mock that up and in the meantime I have nearly completed the helm, glove box, chase for fuel fill and compartments in front of seating.
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Ordered the hydraulic steering and ready to mock that up and in the meantime I have nearly completed the helm, glove box, chase for fuel fill and compartments in front of seating.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Outdoor build of GA Kodiak, Orange, CA
« on: May 17, 2020, 09:09:34 PM »
Json,
Just to make your head spin, most aluminum tanks are not treated or have any special coating and they seem to have a good reputation for longevity. (someone may correct me) I like the way Dan Boccia installed his aluminum tank, although I am not sure what prep he did, but applying uhmw runners so no crevice corrosion can occur and allowing water / air to flow under the tank is a first class install. Crevice corrosion is failure waiting to happen.
There are others that have installed aluminum tanks so maybe someone will chime in and offer advice.
Just to make your head spin, most aluminum tanks are not treated or have any special coating and they seem to have a good reputation for longevity. (someone may correct me) I like the way Dan Boccia installed his aluminum tank, although I am not sure what prep he did, but applying uhmw runners so no crevice corrosion can occur and allowing water / air to flow under the tank is a first class install. Crevice corrosion is failure waiting to happen.
There are others that have installed aluminum tanks so maybe someone will chime in and offer advice.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Outdoor build of GA Kodiak, Orange, CA
« on: May 16, 2020, 10:04:00 AM »
Json,
Just my 2c.
I have painted a few aluminum things (very few) but I can attest to using the aluma-prep and alodine conversion coating to being the best. I painted an aluminum drift boat for a customer over 30 years ago and it still looks new, of course it is stored inside but I used the acid cleaner and alodine conversion coat before applying epoxy primer and single stage enamel paint.
I coated my aluminum fuel tank with raptor after cleaning it with a scotchbrite and some cleaner (cant remember!) and thought it would be bullet proof, after pulling up the floor a couple years later most of it had flaked off... It may have been the raptor liner not being able to expand/contract with the aluminum but it was a failure. We did some repair work on my aluminum boat, sandblasted where it was pitted and my son blew it off and applied "allmetal" filler and sanded it smooth, I knew it needed to be cleaned with the aluma-prep first so I checked the adhesion with a putty knife and every patch easily came off so we re-blaste the spots and cleaned with aluma-prep before applying the filler. You must clean the aluminum of the oxidation which is mostly invisible, rinse with water, blow it dry and immediately apply whatever product you are using without hesitation...
If you try cleaning the backside of your test piece with aluma-prep, rinse and dry you will find the aluminum feels sticky which is clean clean clean, and paint will stick to it.
I am a fan of epoxy primer, not so much of a fan for etching primer. For etching primer to be effective it has to be sprayed on wet or it wont etch and it runs easily, spraying it on dry does nothing for "etching". 2-part epoxy is king in my opion. I will post a link for the aluminum cleaner, open up the technical process document below it and it will have the info you need. The other link for the epoxy primer you will find very useful, they also have epoxy primer high build that is underwater rated polyamide cured epoxy.
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/alumiprep.php
https://tamcopaint.com/collections/primers/products/dta-epoxy
Just my 2c.
I have painted a few aluminum things (very few) but I can attest to using the aluma-prep and alodine conversion coating to being the best. I painted an aluminum drift boat for a customer over 30 years ago and it still looks new, of course it is stored inside but I used the acid cleaner and alodine conversion coat before applying epoxy primer and single stage enamel paint.
I coated my aluminum fuel tank with raptor after cleaning it with a scotchbrite and some cleaner (cant remember!) and thought it would be bullet proof, after pulling up the floor a couple years later most of it had flaked off... It may have been the raptor liner not being able to expand/contract with the aluminum but it was a failure. We did some repair work on my aluminum boat, sandblasted where it was pitted and my son blew it off and applied "allmetal" filler and sanded it smooth, I knew it needed to be cleaned with the aluma-prep first so I checked the adhesion with a putty knife and every patch easily came off so we re-blaste the spots and cleaned with aluma-prep before applying the filler. You must clean the aluminum of the oxidation which is mostly invisible, rinse with water, blow it dry and immediately apply whatever product you are using without hesitation...
If you try cleaning the backside of your test piece with aluma-prep, rinse and dry you will find the aluminum feels sticky which is clean clean clean, and paint will stick to it.
I am a fan of epoxy primer, not so much of a fan for etching primer. For etching primer to be effective it has to be sprayed on wet or it wont etch and it runs easily, spraying it on dry does nothing for "etching". 2-part epoxy is king in my opion. I will post a link for the aluminum cleaner, open up the technical process document below it and it will have the info you need. The other link for the epoxy primer you will find very useful, they also have epoxy primer high build that is underwater rated polyamide cured epoxy.
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/alumiprep.php
https://tamcopaint.com/collections/primers/products/dta-epoxy
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Projects - Glacier Boats of Alaska boat projects / Re: 28 GA in Pagosa Springs colorado
« on: May 15, 2020, 01:15:40 PM »
Sexy looking boat!
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Fish box drain
« on: May 07, 2020, 07:00:19 AM »
The biggest drain tube that will fit, 2" should not hold anything back or clog.
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General Discussion about the Great Alaskan / Re: Fish box drain
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:37:40 PM »
My head is hurting thinking about that!
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Projects - Glacier Boats of Alaska boat projects / Re: 28 GA in Pagosa Springs colorado
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:36:24 PM »
Very impressive to see a build come along so quickly and well thought out, I have trouble figuring out relatively simple stuff. I can tell you have been around wood working for years, you make it look easy.
Hats off to you!
Hats off to you!