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Howie

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GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« on: February 26, 2025, 07:16:57 PM »
I seem to have contracted a case of beam-centric 1 foot-itus.

Working on my interior layout I keep thinking how nice the extra beam of the Kodiak would be. The main advantages I see are being able to have a much more comfortable dinette and the extra room/storage capacity in the cockpit. Having the extra buoyancy and elbow room in general would be great. I am fighting to keep this light but I am building this as a long-term cruiser so I know it is going to be pretty full of gear for our anticipated 2-3 month trips.

If the boat was going to stay in the water it would be an easy decision for me. The issue is that this is going to sit on a trailer and I am really wrestling with the pros and cons of going with the Kodiak.

I would be keeping this at home (Portland, OR) and trailering it to the Columbia/Willamette locally. I have an 11'8" wide area between a wall and a fence where I would be storing it with a straight shot in. Would be a little tight but doable.

We plan on trips to the Puget Sound area and hope to do the inside passage one day. I would love to take this out east to do the Keys/Bahamas, ICW, the NE, Canada and more. Doing the great loop would be amazing too, either in one shot or segments. So the plan is to really pull this thing all over the place, hopefully.

I know once I am on the water I would be very happy to have the extra room but I have never towed anything over 8'6" before. I have towed plenty of goosenecks and dump trailers (some across states), but I just don't know if towing a 9'6" boat these kinds of distances would end up being something I regretted. I am not concerned about dealing with the permits, etc, it is more just the reality of towing something that wide over multiple days. Then I think of the time we would spend towing vs. time on the water and I lean towards building as big as I can. Asking myself, what is another 6" on either side?

If I stuck with the GA, I know I would have a much easier time hauling it around (not that it is small). No permits to deal with and we would not be stuck on the interstates if we wanted to explore some lakes/rivers off the beaten path.

The GA would for sure have some other advantages, cheaper to build, more fuel efficient, easier to store, etc.

Appreciate any perspectives from y'all on this.

Howie







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Re: GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2025, 07:22:17 AM »

Keep in mind that the Kodiak, as designed, has extra capacity in the stern as compared to the GA ... it's designed for people that will use the boat for commercial use, 6-pack chartering, serious recreational usage where the captain may have several guests in the stern of the boat a lot of the time, gear and outriggers, hundreds of pounds of ice etc.  You can certainly build the Kodiak as a longer term camp-boat, and many have, but be aware that you'll need to be cognizant of what items are heavier than others and how to manage your CG.  The Kodiak is also a deeper boat - to accommodate greater overall payloads.  The GA, on the other hand, can take a bit more weight f'w'd versus in the stern and is an outstanding design for what you appear to want to do ... if I were you, I'd build a 28-foot standard GA and be happy.  BTW, the Kodiak is only about 3" wider on each side, total of (under) 6" wider across the whole boat.  I'm not convinced that you'll find it to be a lot roomier.  The two boats are more similar than not, other than where they are designed to carry extra weight.
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Re: GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2025, 09:24:36 AM »
Thanks for talking me off the ledge, Brian.

I was under the impression that there was another foot to work with in width, but I had not ordered the Kodiak addendum to study yet.  Will keep plugging along with the GA design I have been working on. Lots of tradeoffs to consider in all of this for sure.

I hope you are still on track to retire soon. Looking forward to the optimizations/plan updates you mentioned.

thanks,
Howie

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Re: GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2025, 09:48:42 AM »
Thanks for talking me off the ledge, Brian.

I was under the impression that there was another foot to work with in width, but I had not ordered the Kodiak addendum to study yet.  Will keep plugging along with the GA design I have been working on. Lots of tradeoffs to consider in all of this for sure.

I hope you are still on track to retire soon. Looking forward to the optimizations/plan updates you mentioned.

thanks,
Howie

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Re: GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2025, 10:52:17 AM »
Congratulations on your retirement Brian! Here's hoping for a great transition to whatever comes next for you!

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Re: GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2025, 04:21:47 PM »
Congratulations on your retirement Brian! Here's hoping for a great transition to whatever comes next for you!

Why thank you!!

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Re: GA vs. Kodiak long distance towing
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2025, 09:27:27 AM »
A 28? standard GA is quite comfy for two on extended trips.   Ive done 3 weeks twice with no complaints.